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Ticket Counts

New 11-3-04, updated 2-5-13

Violations Recorded and Citations Issued


[6]
A
EB
@
10th
10th
SB
@
A


F
WB
@
10th

F
WB
@
16th

El
Ca-
jon
WB
@
43rd

Blk.
Mtn
SB
@

Mira
Mesa





Left
Mira
Mesa
WB
@

Blk.
Mtn.

Black
Mtn.
SB
@
Gem-
ini

Mon-
te-
zuma
EB
@
54th
La
Jolla
Vill.
WB
@
Towne
Centre




Left

La
Jolla
Vill.
EB
@
Towne
Centre
Im-
per-
ial
WB
@
60th
Im-
per-
ial
WB
@
Eu-
clid

Har-
bor
WB
@
32
nd
Mis-
sion
Bay
Dr.
NB
@
Grand


Left


Gar-
net
EB
@
Mis-
sion
Bay
Dr.

Left
Gar-
net
EB
@ Mis-
sion
Bay
Dr.
Mis-
sion
Blvd
SB
@
Gar-
net

Har-
bor
SB
@
Grape
[8]



Left
Har-
bor
SB
@
Grape


Aero
EB
@
Mur-
phy
Cyn



Right
Aero
WB
@
Mur-
phy
Cyn



Left

Mira
Mesa
EB
@
Scran-
ton

Gar-
net
WB
@
In-
gra-
ham
Ber-
nardo
Ctr
NB
@
Ran-
cho
Ber-
nardo
Right

Car-
mel
Mtn.
EB
@
Ran-
cho
Car-
mel
Left
Col-
lege
SB
@
Mon-
te-
zuma




Left
Mira-
mar
WB
@
Cam-
ino
Ruiz
Palm
EB
@
Be-
yer
Mis-
sion
Ctr.
NB
@
Cam-
ino
Del
Rio

Qual-
comm
SB
@
Cam-
ino
Del
Rio
Con-
voy
NB
@
Claire-
mont
Mesa


Wash-
ing-
ton
EB
@
Cleve-
land
Del
Mar
Hts.
WB
@
El
Cam-
ino
Mira
Mesa
EB
@
West-
view


Kear-
ny
Villa
SB
@
Bal-
boa
Tor-
rey
Pines
NB
@
Gen-
es-
see
Rose-
crans
SB
@
Nim-
itz
N
o
t
e
s
Total
Recorded/
Issued



Sep98




109



















833



222




128












2277
833

Oct98




99



















410



252




103












2086
864

Nov98




106



















392



205




105












2216
808

Dec98




86





412




15








682


461
171


180

55












4986
2062


















































Jan99




118





265




36








385


357
194


143

43












3662
1541

Feb99




78





353




38








352


573
152


163

12












3728
1621

Mar99




111





245




39








504


401
149


139

17












3819
1605

Apr99



9
96

37



207



14
38


402





390


450
112


160

10












5393
1925

May99



5
106

49



195



29
41


452





399


207
104


144

12












5270
1743

Jun99



6
95

22



200



14
28


441





285


138
124


99

7












5085
1459

Jul99



7
73

62



172



11
22


486





215


353
123


79

5












6021
1608

Aug99



9
77

138



271



13
25


554





335


417
136


155














6278
2130

Sep99



33
82

79



240



21
11


339





440


359
119


164














5235
1887

Oct99



68
80

147



369



26
13


366


1020


559


435
170


143














8461
3396

Nov99



102
72

139



326



26
9


311


1024


621


515
153


119














7916
3417

Dec99



78
65

161



419



16
12


311


1098


756


512
181


104














8883
3713


















































Jan00



83
61

130



249



27
21


258


1023


541


502
131


66














7376
3092

Feb00
89


46
66

136



212



28
27


215


985


441


429
95


91














7443
2860

Mar00
447


33
78

145



221



26
24


319


1025


393


450
109

140
96
28













9805
3533

Apr00
195


10
81

179

48

201



26
16


314


1247


369

146
363
107

149
105
65













9319
3621

May00
157


13
60

147

110

181



15
22
833

213

85
1112


283

139
285
103

132
134
14













9897
3622

Jun00
173


0
74

133

99

146



20
21
1121

267

172
1004


285

347
229
121

164
75
43













12803
4494

Jul00
163


5
77

175

74

159



12
3
1055

313

214
1077


291

270
286
121

127
67
27













13020
4516

Aug00
154


9
59

195

84

239



17
13
56

264

182
1186


315

317
328
126

46
175
48













11059
3813

Sep00
220


14
52

159

115

201



17
17
56

298

145
929


242

372
340
124

221
154
54













9154
3730

Oct00
160


6
126

163

64

176



36
8
43

220

189
1011


297

245
312
119

135
135
39













8313
3484

Nov00
163


11
72

132

61

292



28
3
37

205

201
1089


408

228
307
105

197
106
46













8231
3691

Dec00
193


1
66

146

64

274



10
7
35

153

145
806


487

122
308
105

115
72
36













7860
3145


















































Jan01
148


3
51

115

51

163



5
0
6

138

103
749


270

108
254
67

69
50
35













6652
2385

Feb01
117


6
30

83

32

89



7
0
32

147

113
515


163

92
198
62

50
83
24













6569
1843

Mar01
96


8
44

89

39

104



15
9
58

160

81
615


172

61
221
79

55
81
25













7310
2012

Apr01
104


9
14

81

47

72



12
9
34

133

115
983


134

17
177
57

43
67
13













8231
2121

May01
95


5
36

62

25

34



6
2
28

75

13
643


121

29
49
51

23
43
17













7512
1357

Jun01
0


0
0

0

0

0



0
0
-

0

0
-


0

0
0
0

0
0
0













1438
0

1998 - 2001
7109
2674


1725
579

7222
2500

8999
3104

1804
913


16661
6587



2559
477

1353
529
6705
3394

23908
7354

329
1758

62546
19141


36804
12769

5518
2493
21695
10216
9009
4249


6470
1666

6409
3392

2494
514

1089
497













233308
83931
[1]

Jul03

-





-

-


-
-

-



-

-
























-

Aug03

41





97

-


-
-

-



-

-
























448
138

Sep03

35





50

-


-
-

-



-

-
























313
85

Oct03

38





51

25


12
-

-



-

-
























451
126

Nov03

23





98

33


18
-

-



-

-
























583
172

Dec03

31





93

34


22
-

-



-

-
























532
180


















































Jan04

52





83

23


31
-

-



-

-
























536
189

Feb04

17





67

18


18
-

-



-

-
























515
120

Mar04

36





61

15


25
29

-



-

-
























665
166

Apr04

22





41

17


20
40

-



-

-
























660
140

May04

30





35

7


20
21

4



7

-
























730
124

Jun04

23





34

6


8
23

2



12

-
























736
108

Jul04

21





27

20


12
18

4



15

-
























722
117

Aug04

30





36

25


20
42

7



29

1193
234
























1912
423

Sep04

26





54

17


32
40

5



31

1715
315
























2411
520

Oct04

15





49

14


30
42

6



26

1513
296
























2172
478

Nov04
[8]

33





48

10


29
27

4



30

1185
289























[8]
1830
470

Dec04
















































2003-
2004
[10]

1531
473






4125
924


757
264


1274
297
1075
282

177
32



668
150


5606
1134























[10]
15216
3556
[1]

1998-
2004
[7]













































[7]
248524
87487

[6]
[9]
A
EB
@
10th
10th
SB
@
A


F
WB
@
10th

F
WB
@
16th

El
Ca-
jon
WB
@
43rd

Blk.
Mtn
SB
@

Mira
Mesa





Left
Mira
Mesa
WB
@

Blk.
Mtn.

Black
Mtn.
SB
@
Gem-
ini

Mon-
te-
zuma
EB
@
54th
La
Jolla
Vill.
WB
@
Towne
Centre




Left

La
Jolla
Vill.
EB
@
Towne
Centre
Im-
per-
ial
WB
@
60th
Im-
per-
ial
WB
@
Eu-
clid

Har-
bor
WB
@
32
nd
Mis-
sion
Bay
Dr.
NB
@
Grand


Left


Gar-
net
EB
@
Mis-
sion
Bay
Dr.

Left
Gar-
net
EB
@ Mis-
sion
Bay
Dr.
Mis-
sion
Blvd
SB
@
Gar-
net

Har-
bor
SB
@
Grape
[8]



Left
Har-
bor
SB
@
Grape


Aero
EB
@
Mur-
phy
Cyn



Right
Aero
WB
@
Mur-
phy
Cyn



Left

Mira
Mesa
EB
@
Scran-
ton

Gar-
net
WB
@
In-
gra-
ham
Ber-
nardo
Ctr
NB
@
Ran-
cho
Ber-
nardo
Right

Car-
mel
Mtn.
EB
@
Ran-
cho
Car-
mel
Left
Col-
lege
SB
@
Mon-
te-
zuma




Left
Mira-
mar
WB
@
Cam-
ino
Ruiz
Palm
EB
@
Be-
yer
Mis-
sion
Ctr.
NB
@
Cam-
ino
Del
Rio

Qual-
comm
SB
@
Cam-
ino
Del
Rio
Con-
voy
NB
@
Claire-
mont
Mesa


Wash-
ing-
ton
EB
@
Cleve-
land
Del
Mar
Hts.
WB
@
El
Cam-
ino
Mira
Mesa
EB
@
West-
view


Kear-
ny
Villa
SB
@
Bal-
boa
Tor-
rey
Pines
NB
@
Gen-
es-
see
Rose-
crans
SB
@
Nim-
itz
N
o
t
e
s
Total
Recorded/
Issued



Jan05
















































Feb05
















































Mar05
















































Apr05
















































May05
















































Jun05
















































Jul05
















































Aug05
















































Sep05
















































Oct05
















































Nov05
















































Dec05

































































































Jan06
















































Feb06
















































Mar06
















































Apr06
















































May06
















































Jun06
















































Jul06
















































Aug06
















































Sep06
















































Oct06
















































Nov06
















































Dec06

































































































Jan07
















































Feb07
















































Mar07
















































Apr07
















































May07
















































Jun07
















































Jul07
















































Aug07
















































Sep07
















































Oct07
















































Nov07
















































Dec07

































































































Jan08
















































Feb08
















































Mar08
















































Apr08
















































May08
















































Jun08

86
-















-
54

732
-

-
191
-







-

-
-
-
-
-

-
-
-

1063

Jul08

79

















55

488



220



















[11]

Aug08

98

















36

715



193



















[11]

Sep08

85

















50

603



188



















[11]

Oct08

76

















58

494



201



















[11]

Nov08

67

















47

474



181



















[11]

Dec08

66
-















-
41

485
-

-
236
-







-

-
-
-
-
-

-
-
-

828


















































Jan09


15























29







66




10





[11]

Feb09


13























36







79


21

8





[11]

Mar09


16























23







62

69
41
106
7





[11]

Apr09


7























12







65

93
31
122
7
121




[11]

May09


6























14







67

93
42
112
10
161

1


[11]

Jun09

48
10















-
29

428
-

-
130
22







95

100
31
108
12
123

8
219
45

1408

Jul09




































108
61
146

142

3
37
90
[11]

Aug09




































99

131

127

3
325
82
[11]

Sep09








































127

9
194
65
[11]

Oct09










































5
189
53
[11]

Nov09











































353
41
[11]

Dec09

60
13















72
26

182
14

282
198
26







74

96
30
96
11
121

2
216
28

1543


















































Jan10
















































Feb10
















































Mar10
















































Apr10
















































May10
















































Jun10

69
7















117
36

416
31

248
77
5







68

73
40
80
6
126

6
247
44

1696

Jul10
















































Aug10
















































Sep10
















































Oct10
















































Nov10
















































Dec10

65
13















110
16

414
15

285
131
19







127

67
38
85
11
122

9
234
37

1798


















































Jan11
















































Feb11
















































Mar11
















































Apr11
















































May11
















































Jun11

70
6















169
36

315
23

245
76
25







119

101
52
99
23
93

9
248
34

1743

Jul11
















































Aug11
















































Sep11
















































Oct11
















































Nov11
















































Dec11

48
17















110
11

393
12

107
167
19







120

90
70
86
6
128

6
243
38

1671


















































Jan12
















































Feb12
















































Mar12
















































Apr12
















































May12
















































Jun12

52
13















72
24

458
42

85
94
23







102

128
54
102
14
88

6
255
42
[12]
1654

Jul12
















































Aug12
















































Sep12
















































Oct12
















































Nov12
















































Dec12

43
5















73
18

178
10

98
86
10







57

77
40
52
4
81

8
173
5
[12]
1018


















































[6]
[9]
A
EB
@
10th
10th
SB
@
A


F
WB
@
10th

F
WB
@
16th

El
Ca-
jon
WB
@
43rd

Blk.
Mtn
SB
@

Mira
Mesa





Left
Mira
Mesa
WB
@

Blk.
Mtn.

Black
Mtn.
SB
@
Gem-
ini

Mon-
te-
zuma
EB
@
54th
La
Jolla
Vill.
WB
@
Towne
Centre




Left

La
Jolla
Vill.
EB
@
Towne
Centre
Im-
per-
ial
WB
@
60th
Im-
per-
ial
WB
@
Eu-
clid

Har-
bor
WB
@
32
nd
Mis-
sion
Bay
Dr.
NB
@
Grand


Left


Gar-
net
EB
@
Mis-
sion
Bay
Dr.

Left
Gar-
net
EB
@ Mis-
sion
Bay
Dr.
Mis-
sion
Blvd
SB
@
Gar-
net

Har-
bor
SB
@
Grape
[8]



Left
Har-
bor
SB
@
Grape


Aero
EB
@
Mur-
phy
Cyn



Right
Aero
WB
@
Mur-
phy
Cyn



Left

Mira
Mesa
EB
@
Scran-
ton

Gar-
net
WB
@
In-
gra-
ham
Ber-
nardo
Ctr
NB
@
Ran-
cho
Ber-
nardo
Right

Car-
mel
Mtn.
EB
@
Ran-
cho
Car-
mel
Left
Col-
lege
SB
@
Mon-
te-
zuma




Left
Mira-
mar
WB
@
Cam-
ino
Ruiz
Palm
EB
@
Be-
yer
Mis-
sion
Ctr.
NB
@
Cam-
ino
Del
Rio

Qual-
comm
SB
@
Cam-
ino
Del
Rio
Con-
voy
NB
@
Claire-
mont
Mesa


Wash-
ing-
ton
EB
@
Cleve-
land
Del
Mar
Hts.
WB
@
El
Cam-
ino
Mira
Mesa
EB
@
West-
view


Kear-
ny
Villa
SB
@
Bal-
boa
Tor-
rey
Pines
NB
@
Gen-
es-
see
Rose-
crans
SB
@
Nim-
itz
N
o
t
e
s
Total
Recorded/
Issued



This table made by highwayrobbery.net, using official monthly tabulations of citations actually issued.

Reports prepared by the City, covering 1998 - 2001
Reports prepared by the City, covering 2003 - 2004, and signal timing chart
Reports prepared by the City, covering 2008 - 2010 at 6-month intervals
Reports prepared by the City, covering camera startup in 2008 - 2009 and 2011 - 2012 at 6-month intervals

[  ] indicates a footnote.
[1]  Grand totals in cells bearing this footnote are by highwayrobbery.net.  All others are as provided by the City.
[2]  YTD = Year-to-date total.
[3]  Any un-used columns are to allow for later expansion of City's system.
[4]  Any figures in red type are "raw" violations recorded by the cameras. The figures in black type are citations issued.  Figures may have been posted only for selected months, due to time limitations.  If there is sufficient public interest, the remaining months will be posted.  Most of those figures are available in the documents linked above. 
[5]  Intersection-by-intersection data for this calendar month was requested on:
[6]  The enforcement is believed to be on traffic entering the intersection on the first-named street in the direction noted, and is based upon City documents. If a correction is needed, please bring it to my attention.
[7]  Totals for Sept. 1998 to Nov. 2004.
[8]  On 12-24-04 I received a signal timing chart showing a 3.6 yellow for the left from Harbor onto Grape. The chart  included the notation "Last database change 10/22/04."
[9] The extra title bars are solely for the convenience of the reader - there is no difference between them and the one at the top of the table.  Also, the extra-wide vertical grid lines have no significance; they are  for the convenience of the reader.
[10]  Excluding Dec. 2004, as figures were not available.
[11]  Where data for a camera is shown for six months in a row during 2008 - 2009, it represents the first six months of camera operation under the new ATS system.
[12]  Due to paving/striping, the Garnet/Mission camera was off for a portion of June 2012 and the Harbor/Grape camera was off for a portion of Dec. 2012.
     



San Diego Docs Set # 2
More Reading

A lot has been written about San Diego's cameras.  Here are links to some of it.


The Original Sin - Revealed by Their Own Documents
Before San Diego started up its first camera system, they had to select the intersections where the cameras would be placed.  This
internal memo shows that their focus was on money, not safety.



2001 Think Tank Study of San Diego's First Camera System
In 2001, the San Diego Police Department contracted with PB Farradyne to conduct a review of the City's red light photo enforcement program.
The
report (2559 K pdf) included this graph showing the effect of lengthening the yellows at a number of the City's camera-monitored intersections. (Figure 6-1, p. 79 of the document, or p. 96 of the pdf.)

Farradyne: Longer yellows = lower
                    violations

The Farradyne study also included this table comparing the effectiveness of cameras (enforcement) vs. engineering countermeasures (lengthening yellows, better intersection markings, etc.).  (Table 6-3, p. 80 of the document, or p. 97 of the pdf.)

Farradyne: Effect of countermeasures

A Compilation on a Private Website, from 2002
 
http://www.hwysafety.com/nma_rlc_timeline4.htm

See the entries for Jan. 14, 2002, which discuss the effect of the lengthening of the yellow lights, as documented in Chap. 6 of the Farradyne report.


Armey's Website

Congressman Dick Armey's website contained a number of items about San Diego.  There is a replica of his website here on highwayrobbery.net, at:  The Red Light Running Crisis - Is It Intentional?


The Grace Time:  Lengthened, then Eliminated

  In June 2001, due to the fallout from the People v. John Allen case (see Set # 3, below), the City shut the program down.

In Sept. 2002 the city manager submitted a
report to the city council, about re-starting the system.  In his report, he recommended that there be a 0.5 second grace period, and that the minimum yellow light length throughout the City be increased to 3.4 seconds from the then-current 3.0 seconds.

When the City re-opened the program in 2003, it began allowing a 0.5 second (half second) grace period on all tickets.

Then, on July 18, 2006 the city council authorized the elimination of the grace period, allowing tickets to be issued for as little as 0.1 second (one tenth) late.
  The staff report said:

"Of the 36,400 violations that could have been issued, 65% or 23,660 were not issued due to the 'grace period.'"

Without a grace period, they would be able to issue nearly three times as many tickets!  The motion to eliminate the grace period passed 6 - 2 (nays:  Maienschein, Madaffer).

Two Nov. 2007 reports to the council discussed the hiring of ATS to run the system (in place of original vendor ACS), and the effect of the elimination of the grace period.


The City's Website

The City maintains a
webpage with a lot of red light camera info on it.  The City's FAQ about the length of the yellow lights says that in San Diego the minimum length for a yellow light is 3.4 seconds on a turn and 3.9 seconds for straight through.





San Diego Docs Set # 3
The Dismissals in 2001 - People v. John Allen

P. v. John Allen included numerous briefs by both sides, and numerous rulings by the judge. 
Here are some of them.





San Diego Docs Set # 4
Dirty Deeds, Part I

New 8-19-05


In August 2005, I got this email.  I have had a couple previous emails about this happening with old San Diego tickets.  Does the San Diego City government have no shame?

If this has happened to you too, let me know.


Dear Mr. Editor:

A funny thing happened on the way to the gas station. Well, I don't know if it is REALLY funny, but you have to read about this.

Yesterday, I went to the gas pump to put gas into my car (so far so good right?). The pump, equipped with accepting debit/credit cards, refused to take my card. So I went into the store and the woman there said my card had been declined. Well, being unemployed I knew I didn't have a LOT of money in the account but even with the high price of gas in CA right now, I knew I had more than enough for a tank of gas. I used cash for my gas and went along my merry way. After a job interview, I went to the ATM at a branch of the bank I use. My card was refused and the little paper said that there may be a problem with my account. So I went into the bank. My Vice President of Customer Service inputted my account number and told me that my account had been closed and was referred to "Legal Process". I asked her what that meant. She tried to explain it to me and I am sure she was doing a great job HOWEVER I had no clue what she was taking about. She made a phone call or two for me and let me talk to a representative in Legal Process. They told me that they couldn't really tell me anything except that the CALIFORNIA FRANCHISE TAX BOARD put a "levy" on my funds and had withdrawn EVERY PENNY I HAD IN MY ACCOUNT to pay for "something". I called the FTB and they told me it was about a traffic ticket and that they couldn't tell me anything else except the case number.

The next morning I called a collection agency and he told me that the case number referenced a traffic violation dated:  November xx, 1999. Yes, you read that right ... 1999. I went to the referenced Superior Court and spoke with a representative from the collection agency. All she could tell me were the details and made me a copy of the citation. Apparently, on November xx, 1999 in the city of San Diego, California, I ran a red light and the camera took a picture. I swear on a stack of God's Holy Bibles ... I NEVER received notification of this violation. Never, in the almost 6 - repeat - SIX years since the violation have I EVER received ANY notification of this ticket. As a responsible citizen, I would have taken care of this ticket in 1999 when it happened.

So, SIX YEARS LATER, I have monies withdrawn from my account (oh, did I mention that I am Unemployed and the monies were extremely important to me?).

I chose to appear before the judge in Traffic Court (for a ticket almost SIX YEARS OLD). When my name was called, I rose and went to podium. In paraphrase, this is what the judge determined and told me: use of the red light camera was deemed illegal for the year I was given the ticket. My case was "dismissed" and my civil assessment fee was waived. Let's all rejoice over that OK? And I am sincerely thankful that the case was dismissed and the fee waived. BUT, my money that was taken by the FTB will NOT be returned to me anytime soon. The clerk, while giving me instructions and having me sign the paper I need to carry around with me until further notice, told me that I will receive a check from the FTB in about TWO MONTHS. Did you read that slowly? The money, that was erroneously taken out of my account for a ticket that was deemed unlawful will be returned in TWO MONTHS. For someone Unemployed, two months is two months too long. Also, I went to my bank today (they listened so wonderfully) and she told me that I probably will NOT get my bank fee of $60 returned. WHAT? A traffic ticket that was deemed unlawful that has taken SIX YEARS for collections to finally notify me and I HAVE TO PAY for a fee that I should never have received at all?

Like I said: A funny thing happened on the way to the gas station yesterday. That attempt to pump gas resulted in a whirlwind of activity. What resources are available to me and what do you suggest I do now?

Sincerely,

Motorist in San Diego, CA



Another Dirty Deed is in More Reading, above.  See the item entitled The Original Sin.



San Diego Docs Set # 5
Dirty Deeds, Part Duh


In October 2006 I was trying to contact the court San Diego Superior Court Records Department, to get a copy of a brief I wanted to put up on the People vs. John Allen page (see Docs Set # 3, above).  My old number for Records was no good anymore - it just led me in circles, listening to endless menus where I could listen to endless recorded info.  So, I started calling other numbers.  One that I called was the main number for the central traffic court, (858) 565-1006.  I heard this recorded message*:
"For red light photo enforced citations issued by the City of San Diego Police Department, if you did not own the vehicle or were not the driver, please call the Traffic Violations Bureau at (800) 369-5352 for information on how to proceed."
That was all that the recording had to say about dealing with "not-the-driver"San Diego red light camera tickets, and it seemed misleading.  Next, I called the "Traffic Violations Bureau," ("TVB").  My call was answered immediately, by "Yolanda."
Me:  How do I proceed if I was not the driver? 
Yolanda:  You have to identify the driver. 
Me:  Do I have a choice?
Yolanda:  You could go to court and contest the ticket. 
After I asked Yolanda the right question ("Do I have a choice?"), she didn't mislead me; she provided accurate info, that I could go to court.  So, you may be wondering why I'm writing this up.
The court is supposed to be neutral territory between litigants - the City and the motorists it is prosecuting.  As such the court should not be telling motorists who have phoned it that they should call the City or their contractor, the TVB.  At the very least, if the court is going to provide the number for the TVB, the court's recorded message should not give the impression that calling the TVB is the sole option.  First (or "top") billing should be given to pointing out that someone who was not the driver can stay on the line, and make a court appointment.  Further, the recording should make it clear that the very official sounding "Traffic Violations Bureau" is actually a private for-profit company - if the TVB is to be mentioned at all.

Immediately after the recorded passage about San Diego tickets (above), there was this:
"If you were issued a red light photo enforcement citation by the Poway sheriff please call (858) 513-2800 or 513-2888 to schedule an appointment."
That was all the recording had to say about dealing with Poway camera tickets.
I didn't call the Poway sheriff, but am pretty sure that he would have told me to ID the driver.
My objection to the Poway portion of the court's recording is basically the same as above:  Why is the court directing a litigant to contact his opponent, and not speaking of the option to stay on the line and make a court appointment?
*Please note that what I heard was the daytime recorded message.  The after-hours message is different.



San Diego Docs Set # 6
The Contract - Program Ended Jan. 31, 2013


The contract is available on the City's website.


This council report file from the 12-4-07 meeting, has the proposal, and at pg. 200 of the pdf, a memo of agreement (MOA) that adopts the proposal, etc., as the contract.
http://docs.sandiego.gov/councildockets_attach/2007/December/12-04-2007_Item_335.pdf
On pg. 169 of the pdf  (numbered page 77 of the proposal), it shows that sign maintenance is to be done by ATS, a violation of 21455.5.

The minutes for that meeting show, at pg. 109 of the pdf, that they adopted the MOA.
http://docs.sandiego.gov/councilminutes/2007/min20071204rm.pdf

I got to both documents from this page:
http://www.sandiego.gov//city-clerk/officialdocs/legisdocs/previous.shtml

Program Ended

The contract expired on Jan. 31, 2013.  In a Nov. 1, 2012 Union Tribune article, Matt Clark reported that then-current Mayor Jerry Sanders would not bring a renewal of the contract to the council before leaving office. 
On Feb. 1, 2013 new Mayor Bob Filner
announced the end of the program.

U-T article   (archived copy)

San Diego red light camera sign coming down
                  2-1-13
Feb. 1, 2013, 10:55 am:  The first sign to come down



This list of contract documents may not be up-to-date - there could be a contract or amendment later than the ones listed above.




City of San Diego Docs Set # 7
Cameras at Risk?

In June 2012 it was reported that thieves stole components of the camera systems in Cerritos, another ATS customer.





San Diego Docs Set # 8
The Judges


Comm. Corinne Chase Miesfeld

I strongly recommend doing a Peremptory Challenge to remove Commissioner Corinne Chase Miesfeld from your case.




San Diego Docs Set # 9
More Coming


There may be some more information posted in the next few weeks.  Mark your calendar to remind you to come back here and look!





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