Commerce Docs - Main Page - Red Light Cams

Some of Commerce's tickets can be ignored. If your "ticket" does not have the Superior Court's name and address on it, it is what I call a "Fake Ticket" or "Snitch Ticket." For more details, see the Fake Ticket section on the Your Ticket page.

Be sure to read the "Countywide Information," which is Docs Set # 2 on the LA County Documents page.

This table made by highwayrobbery.net, using official documents obtained under the California Public Records Act.

Official tabulations, 2009 - 2011

[ ] indicates a footnote.
[1] Totals are as provided by the City.
[2] YTD = Year-to-date total.
[3] Un-used columns are to allow for later expansion of City's system.
[4] Any figures in red type (or, if you are looking at this table in black and white, the upper figure when there are two or more figures in a cell) are what RedFlex calls Total Violations, or all incidents recorded by the cameras, and due to time limitations may have been posted here only for selected months or locations. If there is sufficient public interest, the remaining months will be posted. The figures in black type are what RedFlex calls Notices Printed, and represent the sum of genuine citations issued (those filed with the court) plus any Nominations mailed (not filed with the court, a.k.a. Snitch Tickets).
[5] Data has not been requested.
[6] The camera enforcement is believed to be on traffic on the first-named street, but the direction of enforcement (north, south, east, west, thru, left, right) is not yet available.
[7] City claims it does not camera-enforce the posted "no turn on red" signs.
[8] Yellow lengthened at ATTG-03L - see Set # 2, below.
[9] Bar graphs (see Set # 3, below) have been received for all the months annotated [9] in the table above, but due to time limitations have been posted below only for selected months. If there is public interest, the remaining months will be posted.

City of Commerce Docs Set # 2
Longer Yellow at Atlantic/Telegraph Cuts Violations by Two-Thirds

The City lengthened the yellow for the southbound partial left turn at Atlantic and Telegraph, from 3 seconds, to 4 seconds, sometime after March 25, 2009, probably on May 11. Here are the charts, exactly as pdf'd and sent to me by the City on May 12 and 13.
Old (2001) Chart
New (2009) Chart
Notes for the charts: The length of the yellow for the southbound partial left turn is given in Column 1, Row E of the table in the upper left-hand corner of page 1. The date of the change is believed to be May 11, although the 'month' digit of the handwritten "date completed" on the 2009 signal timing chart is not fully formed.

The length of the yellow has a great effect on the number of red light camera tickets issued - the longer yellow at Atlantic/Telegraph cut the number of violations by two-thirds (see the first column in the table, above). For another example of the effect of a one-second increase in the yellow for a left turn, see the large table on the Mesa Documents page.

City of Commerce Docs Set # 3
"Late Time" Graphs

The City provided bar graphs of Late Times, etcetera, for all nine cameras.
These graphs track violations recorded, not tickets issued.
Where there is a large number of long Late Time violations in a curb lane, it is believed to indicate heavy ticketing on right turns.
(The curb lane will be the lane with the highest lane number.)

The bar graph above is an example from another city.

ATTG-03L Jan 2009
ATTG-03L Jul 2009
ATTG-03L Aug 2009
ATTG-03L Sep 2009
ATTG-03L Sep 2011

ATTG-03R Jul 2009
ATTG-03R Aug 2009
ATTG-03R Sep 2009
ATTG-03R Sep 2011

EASL-01 Jul 2009
EASL-01 Aug 2009
EASL-01 Sep 2009
EASL-01 Sep 2011

SLEA-01 Jul 2009
SLEA-01 Aug 2009
SLEA-01 Sep 2009
SLEA-01 Sep 2011

SLGA-01 Jan 2009
SLGA-01 Jul 2009
SLGA-01 Aug 2009
SLGA-01 Sep 2009
SLGA-01 Sep 2011

SLGA-03 Jul 2009
SLGA-03 Aug 2009
SLGA-03 Sep 2009
SLGA-03 Sep 2011

TEGA-01 Jul 2009
TEGA-01 Aug 2009
TEGA-01 Sep 2009
TEGA-01 Sep 2011

TEGA-03 Jan 2009
TEGA-03 Jul 2009
TEGA-03 Aug 2009
TEGA-03 Sep 2009
TEGA-03 Sep 2011

TGAT-01 Jul 2009
TGAT-01 Aug 2009
TGAT-01 Sep 2009
TGAT-01 Sep 2011

Bar graphs have been received for all the months annotated [9] in the multi-colored table above,
but due to time limitations have been posted here only for selected months.
If there is public interest, the remaining months will be posted.

Bar graphs are available for more than other cities - see the list in the expanded version of Defect # 9.

City of Commerce Docs Set # 4
The Contracts and Amendments

2007 Contract
As of 1-23-12 the 2007 Contract was the latest version.

This list of contracts and amendments may not be up-to-date - there could be a contract or amendment later than the one listed above.

City of Commerce Docs Set # 5
More Coming

There may be some more Commerce information posted in the next few weeks. Mark your calendar to remind you to come back here and look!

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